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    Thought I would report that TMS unfortunately didn’t work for me. I had right-side TMS for 10 minutes per session, for 5 days a week for six weeks.


    Dee Pressed

    Hi Ccat7
    I am sorry TMS did not work for you.
    From what I know about TMS, having had it, and read about it a session is supposed to be 38 minutes, 5 days a week either right side or left side.
    I have no idea if this is your first time getting TMS your sessions were 10 minutes.
    I have heard of some people going back for “maintenance” if needed a couple times a week, after the six weeks, but still do not believe the sessions are that short. I would request talking to the Doctor who is in charge of providing the TMS.
    If you insurance paid for it, I would be curious to see how it was billed, as they should not be paying for sessions that were so short.
    If you paid out of pocket for it and the sessions were that short, I would be asking for my money back.
    Good luck getting some answers. You deserve them.



    That is the normal length of session offered by the clinic I went to, and they said it has a 50-60% success rate. They told me that the shorter time is just as effective according to clinical studies. It DID make me feel something, which was a “numb” feeling on the right side of my brain, sort of like a “hole.” Unfortunately it had no other noticeable effect. I paid $750 for 5 weeks of 5 days/week treatment at 10 mins/treatment.
    The feeling of a “numb” area is now gone.



    p.s. they also offer treatments on the left side, of 3 minutes per treatment.


    Dee Pressed

    That is what is so frustrating about TMS. It seems that each doctor offering TMS is doing something different. That I don’t understand. There has to be protocol for TMS treatments. I can understand “adjustments” possibly in treatments but from what I have read there are huge differences in how people are receiving TMS.
    I don’t understand why, and I get the feeling from where I had TMS that the techs really had a basic idea of what to do, but then after the techs had a meeting with TMS reps during the time I was getting treatments that things would change.
    My depression is back big time and they still want money from me.



    I think it’s true that protocols for TMS Therapy are actively being tweaked, but based on everything I’ve read about protocol for TMS Therapy it seems more along the lines of fine-tuning than major shifts. Of course, most of the literature about protocol for the clinical use of TMS Therapy pertains to Major Depressive Disorder.

    I imagine that other conditions which are not FDA-cleared might be approached with more latitude – thus the big differences. Either way, I’ve never heard of 10 minute sessions. I think 20 was the shortest I heard, and that was in a research setting, not a clinical one.


    Dee Pressed

    In my opinion TMS providers should each have the same protocol. I understand that no 2 people are the same , but there sure is a difference between 38 minute sessions and 10 minute sessions.
    Ten minute sessions? Would like to know how many others had sessions for that short amount of time even if the sessions were everyday.
    My 38 minute sessions were every day too, and out of pocket they cost $200.00 each session.
    That is a mighty expensive way to receive nothing in return.
    It’s just a money maker.



    Dee Pressed:
    I am sorry that TMS did not work for you. It is discouraging to hear. I do hope you find relief soon. There is much research about the brain being conducted around the world in an effort to find answers to brain disorders. There is hope.
    I had TMS and it worked for me and I live a non-depressed life most of the time after 60 years of deep major depression (MDD).
    Just a couple of points:
    First, since there is FDA approval for TMS treatment each company who manufacturers a TMS system should have developed a protocol for assessing patients and administering treatments. ***Ccat7 if you ask your doctor for the protocol for the machine used, you may be able to get a copy or at least the information. I retrieved one on line for the system that my doctor used. Also TMS administration and use is on a changing continuum for off label use so new discoveries about the treatment are constant. Formal scientific clinical testing as well as individual doctor usage and trials are ongoing. New discoveries and advancements in equipment are at the forefront of research as well. From what I understand, these as well as other variables affect the duration of treatment. It makes it difficult for patients and doctors alike at this point.
    Second, and the most difficult aspect of any treatment is the fact that there is no guarantee for a positive outcome for this and a multitude of other medical treatments (for other issues). Because we are all different biochemically, there is no way to predict the outcome before hand. It ultimately is a risk and I am assuming that all doctors tell their patients this during the decision making process.
    Dee Pressed I send support as you travel the path to managing these challenges. There are so many treatments available, research results on the horizon, support groups etc., to support you. Continue to reach out and take care of yourself physically too. It all contributes to endorphine production!
    Please stay in touch.



    If TMS is not working for you than go with air jetted hydro massage.



    What is air jetted hydro massage? I would be interested in knowing how it affects depression. If it is another tool to use in a person’s journey to manage depression, the info would be helpful. Thanks.

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